Yearofhealth2023の日記, 2023年 06月 8日

I have no clue and don’t care. I just that it fills me and satisfies me for longer. No clue how much I eat per meal. My end of day numbers are my focus mainly. Good question though. I’ll stay around to see what others say.  

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That is generalized, some can absorb more or less than others and it’s based off on the 1st hour of absorption. Total daily protein is what really matters. However you can split it to many meals of 40g for a more efficient digestion and you’ll get more out of it, but the difference is minimal 

You'll absorb it all, but in what way? It's broken down in the liver into amino acids, which are either used for muscle repair/growth or turned into glucose via gluconeogenesis. So you don't waste it, but you aren't able to keep it stored either: you will use it as protein or as glucose. That's an issue for a diabetic like me, but probably not an issue for you. :)  

Not sure about the absorption rate. I’m guessing it will depend on the bodies needs. @80grams a day, I did notice drastic mood change after a month. Hubby says my patience was gone and headaches. Maybe increase gradually, see how your body responds. 

Is there a difference between animal protein and protein shake protein or body doesn’t recognize difference? My plan was to add another protein shake a day. 

studies on people over 50 yr old revealed protein over 40gr in one meal became fat.  

I think there is a difference between animal and shakes. The shakes contain other unnatural ingredients like preservatives, man-made sugars, and artificial flavors.. I think it was the sugars that caused my headaches. My protein diet journey was with the help of a dietitian. Eventually, 1 shake a day with natural protein. But even then, it was too much.  

YOH, yes there is a difference in the bioavailability of the protein you eat. The body absorbs certain proteins better than others with whey protein powder being on top of the list with eggs a close second. Plus certain proteins are complete proteins (cheese, milk, chicken, beef, whey protein to name a few) which means they contain all the essential amino acids needed to build muscle. A lot of plant proteins aren’t complete meaning you have to mix and match to get all 9 of the essential amino acids to build muscle. Often why pea protein is mixed with hemp or brown rice proteins. Your body will absorb all eaten protein, but like superg said it’s better to split it up over the course of the day (not to get complicated, but to allow for better protein synthesis, which is muscle repair and growth). Hope this helped. 

Depends on how much you exercise/calories burned. I maintain a 500 cal deficit right now to try to get to 10% body fat. Lift weights 4 days a week for 2 hours and cardio once or twice per week for 30 min. I am 180 lb male, 51. I try to consume 180g protein a day. Usually no more than 50-75 at one sitting/serving. But make sure I intake protein 4 or 5 times a day with food and/or shakes. I am losing fat and gaining muscle. So….it all depends on the person. 

If anyone that tells you it taxes the kidneys you will immediately know they should do some research. Optimal protein recommendations are based on amino content, specifically leucine, to reduce catabolism of muscle tissue during low calorie dieting. This equates to 30-40g of protein (rule of thumb) each meal about 3-4 hrs apart. Lots of good research but that should give you a starting point. Good luck! 

great question YOH and love the replies!  

Never said it would lead to kidney issues but it certainly can. Everyone on this site is at a different point in their health journey. One size fits all is untrue. There is truth to everything in moderation and if your body doesn’t actually need it, on to the waste line it goes. If you really care about health and not cosmetics here is a link to the nih study, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32669325/ 

Great question and I don't know the answer! But I do know that since I started lifting weights my trainer has me break up my meals into 4 meals a day and shoot for 30 grams of protein per meal. It seems to work well and most days I have one meal with a protein shake but that is more based on busy lifestyle and working full time. My charts say I have CKD but that is only because of my age and the formula's they use. My doctor is aware of my protein intake and working out.  

From what I understand there is some diversity in brliefs on how much and how fast protein is absorbed. The general thought is that ur body can only absorb 25-30 grams per meal but the word meal is the issue. Protein can be absorbed at a meal and the again 1 1/2 - 2 hours later. It makes a bigger difference as well if you body build. It is certainly more important for them to have that protein go to muscle development For the average person I think the general rule is what Red porch said. I eat 4 meals a day and consume between 20-30 grams of protein per meal. I'm sure Super, Otb, Diablo etc know more about this. 

Your body can absorb all of the protein one can consume. Studies show that consuming all of your daily calories in one daily meal is no different than eating 6 small meals from a nutrition standpoint. You can use the AI feature in bing or google to research for yourself. 

I eat 50g-100g per meal. My 1150 cal chicken calzone has 95g protein. As long as I hit 250+ per day, I'm good. 

Not sure, I only try to make sure I reach 60g per day (20 per meal). Good luck. I wrote back to your pm btw 

if you're trying to consume 100 grams of protein a day, your body can absorb and process better in 3/4 meals rather than just one. 

Thank ALL of you for giving me your thoughts. Sounds like the best shot for me it to shoot for 30 grams per meal 3X per day and then two snacks at roughly 15 grams per snack so maybe a couple of egg whites each time would do it. The biggest obstacle is the low caloric amount i have to adhere to and the fact i dont like almost any animal protein. Mental block. Stopped red meat and pork over 30 years ago. Super appreciate all the feedback.